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Chapter 2 - The Dream of the Image and Its Interpretation - Part 1

Introduction: A Dream with No Interpreter

Chapter 2 of Sefer Daniel opens one of the most famous episodes in the book: Nevuchadnezzar's dream of the great image. In this chapter, we encounter a dream that deeply troubled the king and gave him no rest, alongside an extraordinary demand he placed upon his wise men: not only to interpret the dream, but to tell him what the dream itself was. In this lesson, we will explore the opening of the chapter - the description of the dream, the summoning of the magicians, and the intense negotiation that unfolds between the king and the Chaldeans.

וּבִשְׁנַת שְׁתַּיִם לְמַלְכוּת נְבֻכַדְנֶצַּר חָלַם נְבֻכַדְנֶצַּר חֲלֹמוֹת וַתִּתְפָּעֶם רוּחוֹ וּשְׁנָתוֹ נִהְיְתָה עָלָיו׃ - And in the second year of the reign of Nevuchadnezzar, Nevuchadnezzar dreamed dreams; and his spirit was troubled, and his sleep was upon him.
"And His Spirit Was Troubled" - A Sign That the Dream Is True

Nevuchadnezzar was prone to having dreams, and not merely as a one-time occurrence; later in the book, we will see further dreams that he dreamed and required an interpretation for. In ancient times, people placed great faith in the power of dreams, especially when a dream caused agitation. When a person dreams and is deeply agitated and unsettled by it, this is a sign that the dream carries genuine truth.

Notice the specific wording: here it says "vatitpa'em rucho" with a double letter tav, whereas with Pharaoh it says "vatifa'em rucho" (Bereishis 41:8). What is the reason for this difference? Chazal explain: Pharaoh remembered the dream itself, and he recounted it to his magicians; what eluded him was the interpretation. When Yosef revealed the interpretation to him, Pharaoh recalled that he had seen the interpretation in his dream as well, which is why he was so amazed that Yosef pinpointed precisely what he had seen. With Nevuchadnezzar, by contrast, as we will soon see, not only was the interpretation hidden from him, but he did not even remember the dream itself - what he had dreamed was completely lost to him. His demand of the magicians was therefore twofold: to tell him what he had dreamed, and beyond that, what its interpretation was.

And why does the verse state, "Nevuchadnezzar dreamed dreams," in the plural? Because this vision contained multiple elements: both an image and a stone, along with numerous details, which is why it is characterized as "dreams." Thus, we have two key points: first, he knew that he had dreamed, but did not know what; second, "his spirit was troubled" - a sign that the dream was true. The Malbim explains that when fear and dread fall upon someone during a dream, it is a sign that the dream does not merely stem from his own waking thoughts and ruminations. For if terror descends during the dream itself, it proves that the dread stems from a higher source: the soul perceives on a deep level that a message has been delivered from Heaven, and the soul is consequently struck with awe and trembling.

"And His Sleep Was upon Him" - Rashi and the Malbim

There are two explanations for the phrase "and his sleep was upon him" (ushnato nihyeta alav). Rashi explains nihyeta as an expression of breaking, related to havot ("ruin" or "calamity") - meaning that his sleep was broken and interrupted. The Malbim, on the other hand, interprets it oppositely: nihyeta alav relates to existing and continuing (from the root of being) - sleep continued to be upon him, and he remained asleep.

The Malbim adds that this, too, serves as a sign and proof of the dream's authenticity. An ordinary dream of no real substance leaves no lasting impression on a person's soul, whereas a prophetic dream inherently strikes the dreamer with fear and dread. One might argue, however: perhaps a person simply became frightened by a disturbing visual and woke up in terror, which would be no proof that the dream is genuine. After all, how does a person fall asleep? Only when all bodily faculties are at rest; when someone is under tension, they cannot fall asleep because the body cannot relax. The moment a person has a frightening dream, their blood pressure rises and the body wakes up automatically. Consequently, such an awakening does not prove the dream is real, since the awakening is merely a physiological reaction to the elevated blood pressure caused by a scary image, even if the image has no substance. Here, however, we see that the dream did not cause him to wake up; rather, "his sleep continued upon him" - he remained asleep and did not awaken. From this he realized that this was not mere physical agitation or natural panic, but that the dream was genuinely engraved upon his soul, signifying future events. Because of this, he treated the dream with utter seriousness and sought an interpretation.

"In the Second Year of the Reign of Nevuchadnezzar" - Which Reign?

Can this be understood literally as the second year of his overall reign? No, for a simple reason: we will soon see Daniel summoned to interpret the dream, and Daniel attained his standing only after three years of training. If so, Daniel could not possibly be interpreting dreams for him after only two years, as he had not yet been presented before the king. Perforce, "the second year of his reign" refers to his reign over Jerusalem - after Tzidkiyahu rebelled against him and he destroyed Jerusalem. "His reign" is counted from the moment he established full dominion, the defining expression of which was the conquest of Jerusalem.

וַיֹּאמֶר הַמֶּלֶךְ לִקְרֹא לַחַרְטֻמִּים וְלָאַשָּׁפִים וְלַמְכַשְּׁפִים וְלַכַּשְׂדִּים לְהַגִּיד לַמֶּלֶךְ חֲלֹמֹתָיו וַיָּבֹאוּ וַיַּעַמְדוּ לִפְנֵי הַמֶּלֶךְ׃ - And the king commanded to call the magicians, the astrologers, the sorcerers, and the Chaldeans, to tell the king his dreams; so they came and stood before the king.
Four Classes of Masters of the Occult

The king summons everyone who is supposed to know what he dreamed. The magicians (chartumim) are those who perform their arts through occult practices derived from the side of impurity (sitra de-tum'ah); the astrologers (ashafim) are stargazers; the sorcerers (mechashefim) know how to manipulate demons; and the Chaldeans (Kasdim) know how to cast lots. What is the pride of them all? That they know hidden things, possessing knowledge beyond that of ordinary people. And he summons them "to tell the king his dreams" - it does not say to tell the king the interpretation of his dream, but rather: tell me what I dreamed. That is what I do not know, and that is what you must come and tell me.

Why Was the Request Disclosed Already Through the Messenger?

Notice: already when sending the messenger, the king makes known that he wants them to come and tell him his dreams. Seemingly, he could have simply summoned them, and once they arrived, told them what he wanted! Why notify them in advance through the messenger? The Malbim explains that these practitioners often need to perform various rituals, undergo isolations, and make preparations. Therefore, he told the messenger: inform them of what is being asked of them, so that they can prepare their tools at home, get ready, and perform all their necessary procedures - just as the elders of Midian came to Bil'am "with instruments of divination in their hand," arriving with the tools of their trade. So too here: let them isolate themselves at home, prepare their specialized instruments, offer incenses, recite demonic incantations, and do whatever they know how to do, so that they can come and tell him what he dreamed.

The Malbim adds: according to this, it would have been better had they not come at all, since they did not know the dream. The very fact that they appear before him is a form of defiance: as if saying, we do not know, yet we present ourselves before him pretending as though we do.

וַיֹּאמֶר לָהֶם הַמֶּלֶךְ חֲלוֹם חָלָמְתִּי וַתִּפָּעֶם רוּחִי לָדַעַת אֶת הַחֲלוֹם׃ - And the king said to them, "I have dreamed a dream, and my spirit is troubled to know the dream."

The king says to them: I have dreamed a dream, my spirit is agitated, and I want to know the dream. Why was it important for him to emphasize that his spirit was troubled? Because this is proof that his dream was genuine truth. And since that is so, I demand that you reveal my dream to me.

וַיְדַבְּרוּ הַכַּשְׂדִּים לַמֶּלֶךְ אֲרָמִית מַלְכָּא לְעָלְמִין חֱיִי אֱמַר חֶלְמָא לְעַבְדָךְ וּפִשְׁרָא נְחַוֵּא׃ - Then the Chaldeans spoke to the king in Aramaic: "O king, live forever! Tell your servants the dream, and we will tell the interpretation."
Why Did the Chaldeans Speak, and Why in Aramaic?

From this point onward, the book shifts into Aramaic, and most of Sefer Daniel is written in Aramaic, which was the spoken language of the region in their time. Why were the Chaldeans the first to speak? Because the Chaldeans were fluent in Aramaic. Another explanation: note that they spoke in Aramaic. We have seen that there were two tongues - Chaldean and Aramaic - both being dialects of Aramaic, with the difference being that Chaldean was the refined language of the nobility, while Aramaic was the common vernacular of the masses. The Chaldeans intentionally spoke in Aramaic because they wanted everyone present to hear, so that the king would feel publicly embarrassed: how can you place such an impossible demand upon us? This is a request that no human being could ever answer. Therefore, they spoke loudly and in a language everyone understood, so that the king would feel uncomfortable before the crowd standing around him, and perhaps withdraw his demand.

Why Does the King Demand to Know the Dream Itself?

The Kasdim think to themselves: It is very possible that the king is only testing us, and in truth he remembers the dream. After all, if he had only asked for the interpretation, we could always fabricate an interpretation for him - and go prove it wrong! How could anyone possibly disprove it? Therefore, they say to themselves that Nevuchadnezzar is exceedingly clever, and he wishes to verify that the interpretation stems from a higher source. And how would he verify this? If you can tell me the dream as well - then from the very same source from which you extracted the dream, you can extract the interpretation, and then I will know the interpretation is true. But if you cannot tell me the dream, I have grave doubts whether the interpretation is authentic, and I suspect that you are fabricating an interpretation - and go prove it wrong.

This is comparable to a person who visits some so-called miracle-worker, who tells him: "Such-and-such will happen to you." When do you pay? Right now. And when will it come to pass? Who knows, if ever! The king therefore tells them: Do not sell me stories. If you can tell me what I dreamed - then I will know that your words are genuine. But if you cannot tell me what I dreamed, evidently everything you say is a figment of your own imagination.

"Tell the Dream to Your Servants" - The Scheme of the Kasdim

The Kasdim open with words of praise: "Malka le'almin cheyi" - may the king live forever! And then: "Amar chelma le'avdach ufishra nechavei" - tell the dream to your servants, and we will declare the interpretation. This seems astonishing on the surface: the king just stated that he does not know the dream, so how could they say to his face, as it were, that he is lying and that he should tell them the dream?

Rather, explains the Malbim: they did not say "tell us," but "amar chelma le'avdach" - relate your dream to your servants, not to us, and we will not know it. And afterward, "ufishra nechavei" - and we will state the interpretation. What did they gain by this? They were exceptionally astute; not for nothing did they stand before the king. They calculated as follows: If we fabricate an interpretation, the king will dismiss us, saying, "That is unacceptable to me," "I don't buy it," rejecting whatever interpretation we offer. But if we state the interpretation first, and afterward the servants reveal to us what the king told them, we will be able to tailor our words to fit his. As long as it depends solely on you, we fear you will always reject us, since you refuse to disclose the dream to us. But if you tell it to your servants, we can later hear the dream from them, and in some way - as people say today, with a shoehorn - squeeze and twist our interpretation into the dream, asserting: here, this is the allegory for that, and this corresponds to that concept.

עָנֵה מַלְכָּא וְאָמַר לְכַשְׂדָּאֵי מִלְּתָה מִנִּי אַזְדָּא הֵן לָא תְהוֹדְעוּנַּנִי חֶלְמָא וּפִשְׁרֵהּ הַדָּמִין תִּתְעַבְדוּן וּבָתֵּיכוֹן נְוָלִי יִתְּשָׂמוּן׃ - The king answered and said to the Kasdim: The matter has gone from me; if you do not make known to me the dream and its interpretation, you shall be cut into pieces, and your houses shall be turned into ruins.
The King Is No Fool

Nevuchadnezzar was remarkably shrewd, as we have seen in previous lessons, and he grasps exactly what they are attempting. He tells them: You are mistaken in thinking that I am merely testing you, that I actually know the dream and am only examining you. "Miltah minni azda" - the matter has gone from me; I have forgotten the dream completely. And if "you do not make known to me the dream and its interpretation" - "hadamin tit'abdun," you shall be torn limb from limb, "and your houses shall be turned into dunghills" - meaning, I will raze your houses. For from this, I understand that you are trying to deceive me.

וְהֵן חֶלְמָא וּפִשְׁרֵהּ תְּהַחֲוֺן מַתְּנָן וּנְבִזְבָּה וִיקָר שַׂגִּיא תְּקַבְּלוּן מִן קֳדָמָי לָהֵן חֶלְמָא וּפִשְׁרֵהּ הַחֲוֺנִי׃ - But if you declare the dream and its interpretation, you shall receive from before me gifts and rewards and great honor; therefore, declare to me the dream and its interpretation.

Not only a stick, but also a carrot: If you can tell me the dream and its interpretation - "matnan," gifts; "unevizbah," in the sense of a tribute and offering, perhaps related to spoil; "vikar sagi," great honor and immense wealth you shall receive from me. There is only one condition: "lahen chelma ufishreh hachvoni" - declare the dream and its interpretation to me. In essence, he tells them: You have nothing to fear even if you deliver a grim interpretation; whatever you say I will accept, and moreover, I will shower you with gifts, on the sole condition that you tell me the dream and its interpretation.

"Tehoda'unani" Versus "Hachvoni"

The Malbim notes the variation in phrasing. Initially, in his threat, he employs "la tehoda'unani" - if you do not make known to me, I will punish you and demolish your homes. Yet in verse 6, in his words of promise, he shifts and says, "chelma ufishreh hachvoni." What is the distinction between "tehoda'unani" and "hachvoni"? On the surface, both seem to share the same meaning, expressing notification and demonstration.

The Malbim explains: "Informing" (hoda'ah) refers to something that cannot be known except through the informer. "Showing me" (hachvani), by contrast, means reminding me so that I experience it again - I remember it and say, "Right, that is indeed how it was." Therefore, regarding the threat, so that I do not kill you, mere informing is enough: even if only you can state it and I myself do not remember, yet I cannot prove you are lying - that suffices for me not to put you to death. But regarding the promise, when it comes to gifts, informing is not enough. For rewards, I demand "you shall show me" (tehachvunani): that you tell me and I manage to remember and say, "Yes, that is precisely what I dreamed." In other words, to receive rewards, a higher standard of accuracy is required; to be saved from death, a lower standard suffices. But honor, prestige, silver, and gold - only if I remember the dream and it becomes clear to me that your words are true.

עֲנוֹ תִנְיָנוּת וְאָמְרִין מַלְכָּא חֶלְמָא יֵאמַר לְעַבְדוֹהִי וּפִשְׁרָה נְהַחֲוֵה׃ - They answered a second time and said, "Let the king tell the dream to his servants, and we will tell its interpretation."
The Same Claim Again - and Why

On the surface, they are repeating themselves: they already said this, and the king already answered them. Why do they reiterate, "Let the king tell the dream to his servants, and we will tell its interpretation"? The Malbim explains: this time, they are adding a new layer. They are saying to him: "We understand, and we believe you that you indeed forgot the dream. But we are not pressuring you. Take your time, recall it at your own pace, and once you remember, tell it to your servants; we are here at your service and will promptly tell you the interpretation." That is why the text uses the future tense, "let him tell" (yeimar): "When my lord the king remembers, let him state the dream, and then we will provide the interpretation." And of course, their intention remained as before: that he whisper it to his servants without our knowledge, so that we can then offer an interpretation that fits.

עָנֵה מַלְכָּא וְאָמַר מִן יַצִּיב יָדַע אֲנָה דִּי עִדָּנָא אַנְתּוּן זָבְנִין כׇּל קֳבֵל דִּי חֲזֵיתוֹן דִּי אַזְדָּא מִנִּי מִלְּתָא׃ - The king answered and said, "I know for certain that you are buying time, because you see that the matter has gone from me."
"Idana Antun Zavnin" - You Are Buying Time

"I know for certain" - now I know firmly and clearly that "you are buying time." In our terminology: you are trying to stall, to buy time. "Take your time, recall it, and then we will come and tell you" - and what have you gained by that? You have put me off. Here I am threatening to sever limbs and execute you, and you soothe me: "Take your time, there is no rush, we have all the time in the world." The king tells them: "I already see what is going through your heads. You do not know, nor will you ever know; you are merely looking to buy time."

"Because you see that the matter has gone from me" - for you see that it is impossible for me to ever recall the dream; it has completely slipped my mind. Has anyone ever forgotten a dream and then recalled it two days later? If you forgot, it is over, forgotten; and as time passes, you forget even more. Thus, you are only looking to buy time until I calm down and forget about the matter entirely, and thereby you will be saved.

דִּי הֵן חֶלְמָא לָא תְהוֹדְעֻנַּנִי חֲדָה הִיא דָתְכוֹן וּמִלָּה כִדְבָה וּשְׁחִיתָה הִזְדְּמִנְתּוּן לְמֵאמַר קׇדָמַי עַד דִּי עִדָּנָא יִשְׁתַּנֵּא לָהֵן חֶלְמָא אֱמַרוּ לִי וְאִנְדַּע דִּי פִשְׁרֵהּ תְּהַחֲוֻנַּנִי׃ - "For if you do not make the dream known to me, there is but one decree for you; and you have conspired to speak lying and corrupt words before me until the time changes. Therefore, tell me the dream, and I will know that you can tell me its interpretation."
The Ultimatum

Here, the Malbim explains, the king escalates the situation. Until now, one might have thought it sufficient if I were to remember the dream and you would provide the interpretation; now I no longer believe you, and I explicitly demand that you also tell me what I dreamed. "For if you do not make the dream known to me, there is but one decree for you" - to be put to death. And why does he repeat and add, "Therefore, tell me the dream, and I will know that you can tell me its interpretation"? Because he realized that they were trying to deceive him. Having recognized this, he is no longer satisfied with recalling the dream himself while they supply the interpretation - even if they offered an interpretation, it would not be acceptable to him. The only thing that can save them is to tell him what he dreamed as well. This is an ultimatum: either tell me what I dreamed, or I will execute you. For when it comes to devising an interpretation, you could always fabricate something and claim, "This is the interpretation," and who can argue whether it is correct or not?

"Ad Di Idana Yishtane" - Two Interpretations

Rashi explains that the king gave them a time limit: you must tell me this today, "עד די עדנא ישתנא" - until the time changes; it is daytime now, and before it changes to night you must inform me.

The Malbim interprets differently: The king is telling them that he does not trust them, for "מילה כדבה ושחיתה הזדמנתון למימר קדמי" - you are preparing to speak falsehood and deceit before me "עד די עדנא ישתנא": an interpretation that speaks of changing eras and times. For example, that in seventy years the reign of your grandson will be such-and-such - an interpretation projected into the distant future, which cannot be disproven or contested. Therefore, if you wish to speak - tell me now the dream and its interpretation. Only if you tell me the dream will I have definitive proof that the interpretation is also true; without this, I do not rely on your interpretation alone.

To summarize:

The opening of the chapter presents a dream whose authenticity is evident from two signs: "ותתפעם רוחו" ("and his spirit was troubled") - the dread that fell upon him during the dream, which did not stem from his own waking thoughts; and "שנתו נהייתה עליו" according to the Malbim - that he continued sleeping and did not wake in terror, proof that the dream was genuinely engraved upon his soul. Nevuchadnezzar, having forgotten both the dream and its interpretation, summons the magicians, enchanters, sorcerers, and Chaldeans and informs them of his request in advance so they can prepare their tools, demanding from them the dream itself - for only one who knows the dream from a supernal source also knows its interpretation. The Chaldeans try to be clever, asking that he tell the dream to his servants so they can tailor an interpretation after the fact; and the king, being no fool, sees through the ruse, distinguishes between "תהודעונני" ("make known to me", sufficient to escape execution) and "החווני" ("show me", required to earn rewards), exposes that they are merely "buying time", and ultimately sets an ultimatum: either you tell me the dream itself, or there is only one verdict for you - death.